Speaker: If somebody asks, “Tell me about yourself”, then how will you talk in the language of ‘We’? You see, this is what it is. I do not know myself and I claim to know everybody else as well. It is already dangerous to claim self-knowledge, and I am claiming knowledge of others as well. Yes, so ‘I’…?
Listener 1: But Sir, I am not getting you actually.
Speaker: “I am not getting you”, right? Not “We are not getting you”. What did you say? “I am not getting you”. Correct? So, ‘I’! Yes?
Listener 1: Sir, I was saying, up to now, it was just a growth. But now I am here for development. Growth plus progress.
Speaker: Alright Sir. Now how do you differentiate between growth, progress and development?
Listener 1: Sir, according to me growth + progress = development.
Speaker: What is growth? What is progress? When you say X + Y = Z, you must first know ‘X’ and ‘Y’ in order to come to ‘Z’. What is growth? What is progress?
Listener 1: Growth is just increase in size and when some progress is included in that, it becomes development.
Speaker: When some…?
Listener 1: Progress is added to it.
Speaker: What is progress?
Listener 1: Progress means enhancing your views, observations and all the things.
Speaker: When you say increase in size, increase in whose size? Your body’s size. Is that what an educational institution is for? What do you mean by increase in size?
Listener 1: Sir, knowledge, mindset. It is a part of development.
Speaker: Growth. Let’s first focus on one thing. What do you mean by growth? We will then come to progress so that we can come to development. What is growth?
Listener 1: Simply as you have told that…
Speaker: Why should what I have told? I am nobody.
Listener 1: You were saying one thing…
Speaker: (Interrupting) You tell me, what do you mean by growth because it is your life, not mine. Right? It is your life. Not mine. So you tell me, what do you mean by growth.